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axel Crazy? Registered 05/02/2005 Points 4766	16th June, 2008 at 07:22:29 - PROTIP: Experienced MMF users never use global events or qualifiers, because they keep everything in one frame and make level editors instead. Problem solved! n/a
Phredreeke Don't listen to this idiot Registered 03/08/2002 Points 4504	16th June, 2008 at 07:28:40 - PHREDTIP: Move on to Java or C++. If you're clever enough to make a level editor, you're probably clever enough to learn Java. - Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen - Make some more box arts damnit! http://create-games.com/forum_post.asp?id=285363
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	16th June, 2008 at 07:32:04 - But the amount of professional Adobe Flash content in general is far greater than professional MMF content in general. I do not completely agree, but pretending that you're correct, it's only because Adobe is much more popular than Clickteam. What? No. I'm saying they should be developing MMF2 a lot more quickly than they are being aware of what people need. See Ben's message: "Global qualifiers are needed by a select group of people - where-as more people are after HWA and Java and as a small team (hardworking or not) they can't make everything at once. They did just release another update today with a big list of fixes and changes, so they do listen and will eventually put things in. " We've been through this. First off, I had no idea they'd scrap Global Qualifiers completely, I was using the glitch before. They didn't. They will add this feature when they're done adding other, higher demanded features which most of clickers will agree that are more usable. I'd prefer Clickteam to add completely new features first and only then add features that can be EASILY done with workarounds. Secondly, Click products are generally expanded through extensions so taking a product as is, is not the definite solution. So you're wrong by understanding the meaning of extensions. Extensions in MMF2 (And Construct for this matter) only provide new objects, not core functions. Valve do. And don't forget it's not as if they're not making any money from it - these are features that will attract more people to buy the software, and future versions of the software expecting this functionality to be expanded. Valve isn't "many companies". So here's another great company. The Construct guys are genuinely doing it for free. Only because they were legally forced to. No, it didn't prove it. They may have broken an agreement and engaged in other activities but that doesn't make Construct itself an illegal product. Sorry honey, but it does. :0 Service Unavailable
axel Crazy? Registered 05/02/2005 Points 4766	16th June, 2008 at 07:40:31 - Originally Posted by Phredreeke PHREDTIP: Move on to Java or C++. If you're clever enough to make a level editor, you're probably clever enough to learn Java. True, lol. That's what I'm doing at the moment anyway. And that's what Mr Pod did with The Underside once he got fed up with MMF's limitations. n/a
AshleysBrain Registered 23/08/2007 Points 127	16th June, 2008 at 07:46:45 - This is really boring. We've all been through this already several times and I am prepared to let it go, but LIJI is working industriously to sour the relationship between Scirra and Clickteam. Still, I'll try not to hold anything against Clickteam even though I'm pretty sure they paid him at some point and have also assured me he wouldn't be a problem again, but I guess he's just a stray 15 year old on a forum. You can talk about the ethics of the situation all you like, but Construct is not an illegal project. I have discussed the matter with legal experts on the subject. Have you? Under what UK law (which is my jurisdiction) is the project illegal? As far as I am aware, nobody on either side has patents, so that's not an issue. And as for copyright, which pertains solely to the source code, we're open source for the world to check for any illegally used code. There isn't any, because we wrote it all ourselves or used free libraries. That's as far as the law goes. You can't just make up some reason. You would have the case thrown out of court. For the record, I acknowledge Construct is buggy and unstable in many situations, since it is in beta, and we are aiming to correct this by the 1.0 release. As I have stated on my own forum before, I would not recommend large or important projects are started in Construct before 1.0. Hopefully LIJI won't be foolish enough to try, at the detriment of everybody and himself, to STILL argue it's an illegal project, but he's only 15 and certainly no legal expert. I hope everybody reading his posts takes this in to account. I won't be responding to any more of his wearisome comments, for the benefit of everybody (but expect a line-by-line analysis where he debunks every point I make in a 100% unrefutable way and therefore wins the argument). - Ashley www.scirra.com
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	16th June, 2008 at 07:53:06 - Ashely is angry because I didn't invite her to the grand opening of my 100 floors building that I bought with the money Clickteam paid me for showing the world the side of Construct she wants to hide. Seriously, do you really think Jeff woke up in one morning and thought- What should I do today? Oh! Let's pay LIJI to talk some rubbish about Scirra! that'd be hilarious! No. You're retarded. Service Unavailable
Phredreeke Don't listen to this idiot Registered 03/08/2002 Points 4504	16th June, 2008 at 08:00:26 - Someone's gonna get a warning The idea of Clickteam paying LIJI to talk crap about Construct is silly. - Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen - Make some more box arts damnit! http://create-games.com/forum_post.asp?id=285363
AshleysBrain Registered 23/08/2007 Points 127	16th June, 2008 at 08:05:11 - To clarify, I was not implying Clickteam pay anybody to badmouth me or Scirra. I was making the point that LIJI has worked for Clickteam, therefore is closely affiliated with them. - Ashley www.scirra.com
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	16th June, 2008 at 08:08:02 - Oh I'm a Clickteam staff now? Cool! Sorry Ashley, you talk crap. again. Service Unavailable
Roseweave Registered 31/07/2007 Points 341	16th June, 2008 at 08:10:56 - You know, this thread was quite respectful and mature, surprisingly so and it was good. But the problem LIJI you really came in and started flinging crap around, first at me and now at Ashley. I specifically said to keep this kind of rubbish out of it. I don't blame Ashley for replying and being upset. You are the reason we can't have mature discussions about the merits of Clickteam vs. Construct and other alternatives. Check out my Telekinesis'em'up Thread and the ALICE Machines - http://www.create-games.com/project.asp?id=1213 "Did you know there's a million bucks hidden in the house next door?" "But there is no house next door?" "No? Then let's go build one!"
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	16th June, 2008 at 08:22:08 - What's wrong, Roseweave? I was just pointing out that Ashley got her facts wrong. Service Unavailable
Flava Registered 30/07/2002 Points 684	16th June, 2008 at 08:30:58 - And what was a discussion has now become another immature thread.. This is a signature. Have this one on me.
Flava Registered 30/07/2002 Points 684	16th June, 2008 at 08:31:08 - Administrative Message: This topic has been locked. This is a signature. Have this one on me.
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