Originally Posted by BrandonC Apple's too busy trying to control what it's users are exposed too, by giving them free software and then trying to make it so that file formats only work on their software.
Yes, microsoft likes to charge money for the software that only reads their formats. Until they get threatened with legal action resulting from the anti trust lawsuit. This is, of course, only after they give up on the "bug" defense.
Originally Posted by BrandonC Leaving you to find BETTER software. Apple's too busy trying to control what it's users are exposed too, by giving them free software and then trying to make it so that file formats only work on their software. And people say Microsoft tries to dominate. If I'm not mistaken, all you little Mac boys have Office and Internet Explorer, no?
No, you're quite mistaken. I use Open Office and Firefox on PC, iWork and Safari on OSX.
A couple of years ago after having a whale of a time with OSX I got my first intel mac and gave XP a shot again. Was really shocked to see they didn't even let you play DVD's. Movie Maker didn't deal with HD films, spent the first half of the day hunting and installing DirectX, new vid drivers, getting a plethora of XP updates. A shame Microsoft still haven't got a 1 stop button that says "update" and takes care of software and hardware. I dunno. Not trying to start an argument but I'd like it if MS made things easier and problem-free - especially in a work environment.
Windows Vista automatically updates both software and hardware. And if it doesn't, it's time for you to upgrade your hardware. Don't argue this, because if I can start my computer up after installing Windows Vista and automatically have updated video, sound, and network drivers within 10 minutes, then it works. Especially since generic products, budget or not, are not the way to go with PC's, so you should always have name brand parts. There's really no excuse.
In fact, the first time I've ever had a Blue screen of death on Windows Vista, I was immediately presented with the option of installing a hotfix which in this case, was a result of my network drivers being corrupt. Installed the hotfix and never had a BSOD since. So to say that Microsoft isn't working on these issues, is a flat out lie.
Software wise though, maybe this is just me because this is actually a particular interest I have and plan to go to college for, but I have found that neither Mac nor PC supply any sort of quality video editing software what so ever. It's merely all just a big wizard in a sense. So to say that Apple comes with better software installed on it then Windows would be not much unlike saying that my stale bread is better then your slightly more stale bread.
Shab made a point that I can agree with though, and I'll dismiss what I said about Microsoft. Apple on the other hand, I wont dismiss my claims about. I think it's pretty stupid if I need to buy Quicktime to watch videos in fullscreen. Especially when Windows Media Player does that and more, for free.
Originally Posted by BrandonC Windows Vista automatically updates both software and hardware. And if it doesn't, it's time for you to upgrade your hardware. Don't argue this, because if I can start my computer up after installing Windows Vista and automatically have updated video, sound, and network drivers within 10 minutes, then it works. Especially since generic products, budget or not, are not the way to go with PC's, so you should always have name brand parts. There's really no excuse.
In fact, the first time I've ever had a Blue screen of death on Windows Vista, I was immediately presented with the option of installing a hotfix which in this case, was a result of my network drivers being corrupt. Installed the hotfix and never had a BSOD since. So to say that Microsoft isn't working on these issues, is a flat out lie.
Not in XP... It's not even based in Windows itself - it's what they provide online. So why are they only hosting files for Vista? Another artificial feature to get you upgrading to Vista?
Software wise though, maybe this is just me because this is actually a particular interest I have and plan to go to college for, but I have found that neither Mac nor PC supply any sort of quality video editing software what so ever. It's merely all just a big wizard in a sense. So to say that Apple comes with better software installed on it then Windows would be not much unlike saying that my stale bread is better then your slightly more stale bread.
Shab made a point that I can agree with though, and I'll dismiss what I said about Microsoft. Apple on the other hand, I wont dismiss my claims about. I think it's pretty stupid if I need to buy Quicktime to watch videos in fullscreen. Especially when Windows Media Player does that and more, for free.
If you're going to argue points at least make sure they're up to date. Quicktime has free fullscreen... The only thing the pro version does is offer a low-level video editing service. Basically just copy/paste vid or sound clips together, move bits around etc. But the good thing about this is it supports real time editing at any resolution, something which only full blown professional apps support.
And no. The bundled Apple software suite is very highly rated. I can't say much for the new iMovie, and neither did a lot of people so they bundled both the HD iMovie and new-layout iMovie and you simply select which one you want on install. And it does HD off the bat... Infact even on the PC-fanboy forums and magazines I see a lot of praise for the iLife suite that comes with OSX. But this is Brandon and anything Apple can't be good aye
"There's really no excuse."
So if you can't afford good, highend products then... be damned! What a turn on the age old Apple and price debate.
And not another XP/OSX/Vista argument -.- Jussstiiiiin
That reminds me of when I was a kid. Some shop in Wales had a 'survival kit' for kids which had binoculars, compass, mirror, whistle etc. All in one design, like. Was ace
Lol I was just making an offhand comment. Didn't mean to start a mac vs pc war.
But I'll continue on anyway. I've got both a mac and a pc. I barely use the mac. It came with garageband which I like playing around with. I have final cut express hd but I prefer Sony Vegas on my pc. I also hate the dock on macs. There's a dock & a taskbar. The dock is a pain because the windows you're using constantly go behind it. You can hide it to only show up when you put the cursor to the edge of the screen but then it's finnicky about when it pops up. Unless of course you don't want it to pop up. Why can't they just combine the dock & the taskbar into one like windows has?
Then of course there's the fact that macs are rediculously overpriced. And the mouse acceleration problem which I think I actually complained about somewhere on here before. I also don't like the limited amount of customization you can do on a mac. With windows you can adjust everything and anything. With macs you get 3 text sizes and a few color schemes.
Originally Posted by JustinC Lol I was just making an offhand comment. Didn't mean to start a mac vs pc war.
But I'll continue on anyway. I've got both a mac and a pc. I barely use the mac. It came with garageband which I like playing around with. I have final cut express hd but I prefer Sony Vegas on my pc. I also hate the dock on macs. There's a dock & a taskbar. The dock is a pain because the windows you're using constantly go behind it. You can hide it to only show up when you put the cursor to the edge of the screen but then it's finnicky about when it pops up. Unless of course you don't want it to pop up. Why can't they just combine the dock & the taskbar into one like windows has?
After using XP for years I much prefer the dock layout of OSX. Microsoft liked it so much too that Windows 7 has a hybrid of OSX and XP's menu so Apple must be onto something
Then of course there's the fact that macs are rediculously overpriced. And the mouse acceleration problem which I think I actually complained about somewhere on here before. I also don't like the limited amount of customization you can do on a mac. With windows you can adjust everything and anything. With macs you get 3 text sizes and a few color schemes.
Pay for quality never had one of my macs fault on me. Never so much as a dead pixel either (thankfully because of their designer pedigree you can be really picky and get replacements for 1 dead or stuck pixel. Nintendo are the same actually). That said my PB was cheaper than the identically performing PC laptop I bought weeks apart...
And you can mod OSX in the same you can for XP. Some might say it's more customisable through being able to easily edit any icon and label, just not the window graphic. And as with anything I'd prefer something designed by a professional than doing a botched job but letting us change some colours around.
PLEASE PLEASE! >_< No OS wars. I didn't even want to read all that poogus. Let's stick to the topic at hand, OS wars never get anywhere.
My DS is a plain silver one too... got the little bugger as a surprise Christmas gift (from whom I have no clue) when it came out. One of the hinges has been broken from use but it still works great and the battery STILL lasts AGES! Nintendo really designed it well. I'd buy another to play multiplayer games with the siblings but I don't have that kind of money to throw around. >_>
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