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13th May, 2006 at 19:17:29 -

In a homage to Heart Break Kids "Best Games" post, which do you think are the most over-rated games? Not the worst games as such, but the ones which grabbed high scores and you felt that they weren't deserved. Vote for ONE klik game and ONE commercial game. And try not to turn this thread into any personal attacks.

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I'll say it for Phredreeke: Eternal Daughter

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Klik: Lost Valley
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I like Carmageddon, it's not exactly sophisticated entertainment but it's a bit of a laugh.

I think Halo's vastly overrated. That is, I'm intrigued by the plot and can see why people like it, but it just seems slow and awkward compared to many other FPSsesses.

 
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I only like Halo so I can go online and screw around with stupid people who spend their whole life on there.

Like one time, I followed this one kid around and killed him over and over, and he got so angry. It was funny, until I found out he was handicapped.

 
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That was probably his one vessel of happiness, too. He could run in that game.

 
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13th May, 2006 at 20:48:18 -

You hit it right on there Wong. Halo is the most overrated game ever. It's nothing more than a standard fare FPS with pretty graphics.

I haven't decided on a klik game yet. I'm going to put some thought into it, but offhand I'd say Fishhead (sorry hayo).

 
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13th May, 2006 at 20:53:49 -

If that's Fishhead 3 I agree. I still don't know what people liked so much about it.

 
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FH3 was a good game to be sure; but I don't know why I'm explaining this to you, you know I've got nothing but respect for ya Hayo.

 
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I hate SatanSam for one reason and one reason alone; instead of giving me more control over my character, it took it away. That jump shot is a perfect example.

 
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13th May, 2006 at 21:27:52 -

Klik: Eternal Daughter
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Eternal Daughter is an absolutely beatiful game, but I just never found it that fun. It's impressive, but certainly isn't the end-all Klik game that everyone treats it as.

Oblivion is just Morrowind with a new coat of pain, with all the same problems of it's predecessor. There is no style to the art direction at all, and the graphics aren't even that great from a purely technical perspective. The combat is boring, the storyline is cliche, and the load times are ridiculous.

 
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13th May, 2006 at 23:57:57 -

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Klik- Satansam/Scurvy Sanchez
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Also, Zelda: The Wind Waker was freakin ace, wtf are you on about Noodle?

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14th May, 2006 at 03:18:38 -

Halo is definitely over rated...

I think all popular Klik games deserve to be popular.

 
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Eternal Daughter was an impressive game but I never found it fun. I wanted to find it fun, but I didn't. For Commerical Metal Gear Solid.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 07:14:37 -

Counterstrike isn't stupid and crap.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 07:18:43 -

Counterstrike was, and is still overrated as hell. Plus I've never liked those kind of games.

Most overrated klik game? There's loads. Almost all games except the really crappy ones. But I'd say Eternal Daughter is fairly overrated. Also, I never understood what people saw in any of the Fishhead Games? (And Spiderhead whatever). Also MIG2s games are just a little overrated.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 10:08:43 -

"Also, I never understood what people saw in any of the Fishhead Games? (And Spiderhead whatever)"

People only saw something in Fishhead 3, the other ones were thankfully hardly noticed (most of them were made in klik&play). Spiderhead is a great game and is not connected to Fishhead in any way.

What I don't like about the konaMIG games is that there is nothing original about them. Lost valley had ripped gfx than didn't even go together, the other games have original gfx that look like they were traced with bad shading. The actual coding is great, but the games look like faded versions of neo geo classics. It's like fangames made by a pro.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 12:36:18 -

"Also, Zelda: The Wind Waker was freakin ace, wtf are you on about Noodle?"

It was only ace if you were 5 years old, or had the intelligence of a sprout. It was really really easy. Give me Ocarina of Time anyday.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 12:49:01 -

Sorry Hayo, I didn't mean Fishhead totally sucked. It was a good game, the third part. But as for the topic, it got just a little overrated. No hard feelings. It's probably better than any game I've ever made. I was in a really bad mood when I wrote the reply, and Fishhead got to be the victim. Lame excuse to not stand for me opinions, but it's true.

 
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Being easy doesn't mean its a poor game, or that it cant be enjoyed.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 12:59:03 -

It is when it's so easy it takes the whole prospect of a challenge out of it, and the sailing but was so so boring.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 12:59:06 -

Yes it does. It looked fancy and everything, but the gameplay was poo.

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14th May, 2006 at 12:59:39 -

Just for the record, I do think Fishhead 3 was very overrated..but I already said that

As for Windwaker, I do agree that game was a bit overrated (game of the year and all). It's a great and lovely game but it's just too short. It needs 2 extra dungeons (same for minish cap).

 
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14th May, 2006 at 13:18:37 -

Yeah, i agree on the whole Wind Waker being too short. They tried to pad it out with the sailing thing, but it just made it worse

I hope twilight princess brings the series back up to awesomeness again. Not that i'll be getting it, mind...

 
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14th May, 2006 at 13:41:10 -

Klik, probably Eternal Daughter. Impressive technically and graphically but boring to play. Commercial, I'm not sure. I've never bought I game I didn't read positive reviews for and go on to find crap. Doom 3 was hyped and turned out shit, though, if that counts.

 
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Klik: Eternal Daughter and Mr Stumps Dentures.
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I remember mario kart was reviewed in a dutch gaming mag when it came out and only got a 6 out of 10. Everybody freaked out. I think it's a cool game and it's alot of fun to play, but some parts totally don't make sense, like you can't jump over obstacles while all the others can.

 
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Mario Kart were pretty good for a bit, but the gameplay is a bit samey. The battle mode extends it's lifetime a bit, but I do agree Mario Kart shouldn't be up there with Mario World or Donkey Kong as the best of SNES.

 
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Commercial wise I think Halo was actually not over hyped or over rated but Halo 2 most definitely was. Doom 3 was over rated and over hyped but it was actually an ok game. CS:S was nothing special but I never really expected it to be. When I first played Ocarina of time I actually thought why on Earth did people like it, I especially dislike people who call the Zelda series RPGs, they are not RPGs, they are third person action/adventure games. Games like The Elder Scrolls series and Might and Magic are RPGs. But thats just my opinion, I was never too keen on Zelda when I played it.



 
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I don't think Fishhead 3 is overrated. But people did go a bit nuts.

If a game is good, it's the best game in years. If it's bad, it's the worst pile of poop they've ever played!

That said, it is certainly fun but far too repetitive, especially since Fishhead 2 is nearly identical for the most part.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 17:22:00 -

God do I hate the Donkey Kong Country series; that's another one that's way overrated in my eyes.

 
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Each to his own, I guess.

 
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I can't think of an overrated klik game. ED was for a long time the game to aspire to. It has flaws, but it's also hard to argue with the best when there's not all that much competition. When it comes to the overhyped games that suck (MSD, anything by jay ever) nobody's under any illusions.

Commercial games I'd say the Halo series wins hands down. It's an above-average console FPS. Not a fantastic FPS or a great game. Someone get these xbox kids a PC.

 
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I'd like to step up to defend Halo here. Halo does nothing new, but all the stuff it does have is spot on. The vehicles were fun to drive. The story was intriguing. The protagonist was decent. The AI was excellent, both friendly and enemy. The outdoor levels were expansive and atmospheric (I'll agree that the indoor levels were boring and repetitive). The multiplayer was amazingly fun; I spent countless hours playing friends on the Xbox and online on the PC. The graphics and physics were above-par for the time. From what I've played of Halo 2, it took that formula and improved on all the parts of it, retaining the same feel yet adding plenty whilst still somehow failing to break the mould.

Of course both games were hyped. Halo was The One Good Launch Title for the Xbox. Clearly Microsoft are going to hype their best (some might say only decent) game. But that in no way makes it a bad game, and the sequel was a hit on its own merits as much as the hype machine (though there's no denying that helped). Don't let the hype blind you from a quality game.

 
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I've played Halo quite a bit actually, in my mind though, it's grouped in with Quake 2 and the hundreds of other FPS's that came out at that time. The only one that stuck out in my mind at that time was SiN; but even that wasn't a great FPS, merely a good one.

My vote for best FPS's are still System Shock 2 (PC) and Timesplitters 2 (Console).

I hate DKC cause it's another generic platformer, Mario 3 had better gameplay. Prerendered graphics didn't mean anything to me then, and still doesn't today. DKC(1,2,and 3) are very subpar Nintendo games IMO.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 18:46:20 -

Heh I wondered if this topic would return to bite me in the backside. I agree that MSD is over-rated (although at the time I was just pleased to finish a game, and perhaps took it out on some people)

 
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Heh, at least you've finished games.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 19:38:27 -

Other over-rated commercial games (IMO):

Halo
Timesplitters 2
Manhunt
Mario Kart: Double Dash
Yoshi: Touch And Go
Doom 3
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Other over-rated klik games (IMO):

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Neonair Racing. Definately.
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14th May, 2006 at 19:57:45 -

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14th May, 2006 at 20:01:48 -

Heh; I'm not really sure if you could call TS2 overrated; most of it's rating sucked (6-7 range) when it got reviewed. TS 3 was definately overrated though.

I only rant and rave about it because I havn't found a faster FPS for consoles yet. (Yes, I'm away you can crank up UT to like 200% gamespeed [which I've done] in the PC version.)

 
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I remember mario kart was reviewed in a dutch gaming mag when it came out and only got a 6 out of 10. Everybody freaked out. I think it's a cool game and it's alot of fun to play, but some parts totally don't make sense, like you can't jump over obstacles while all the others can.

I remember the bad review (Was it from Power Unlimited, Hayo? I can't remember which magazine) Anyway, i found that review well deserved, all other magazines gave Mario Kart a high ratings, and I really thought it would be a good game. Man, was I dissapointed when I played it. So boring and repetitive ~_~ Everyone was just kissing up Nintendo and only Power Unlimited was being fair and told the truth. And everybody disagrees with me of course . Oh well, just my opinion I guess.

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Now, come on, ITP was impressive for its time, Circy.

 
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14th May, 2006 at 21:00:09 -

@Hernan: Yeah it was Power Unlimited. They also gave FF6 a 5,6 or so. Madness.

 
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I just remembered the most overrated series of games ever, Tomb Raider. They were shite really, they just got 9/10 for breasts.

 
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Heh, I only ever really played the first one when tt first, first came out for PC. Wasn't too impressed. I tried playing some other incarnations of it, but they were even worse.

Hows Legend or whatever? I actually heard that one was a decent game.

 
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What's Scurvy Sanchez?

 
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15th May, 2006 at 17:04:37 -

Lazarus: Really, I can't stand In The Pit. There are so many better and more impressive games during the same era. Destruction Carnival. Atom Boy.

Ok, not "so many" then, but they are there. I know a lot of people who don't like ITP.

 
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HALO:Combat Evolved is certainly not an over rated game & is definately better than an average shooter. It gives that X-Feel which makes it more superior than any other shooter in this world.

 
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Scurvy Sanchez.

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"It gives that X-Feel"

You mean it's an Xbox game and you're a fanboy?

 
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19th May, 2006 at 13:40:59 -



 
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19th May, 2006 at 16:43:27 -

Edit: Then again , how exactly you came up with that?

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19th May, 2006 at 17:36:47 -

HBK - Halo is just another shooter. I agree it's well made, but it's just another shooter. My personal favorite Timesplitters is just another shooter (though even more generic, but in a good way).

List of shooter equal to or greater than Halo (IMO)

Red Faction (Not 2, 2 sucked bad)
SiN (PC)
Quake 2
System Shock 2
Thief (1-3)
Dues Ex (I haven't played 2 yet, but if the first was any indication, it's great)
Robotech: Invasion (This one is actually a bit less than Halo, but still fun)
Half-Life (haven't played 2)
Voyager: Elite Force (1+2)
YPOD (Your path of Destruction, a Doom-mod for the first Quake; get the remake, the original is really rough)

 
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20th May, 2006 at 16:01:37 -

I agree with you about Red Faction, it was amazing, totally underrated.

 
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20th May, 2006 at 16:33:24 -

Yes, despite the train ride(Yay! Railgun city!); it was a great game, a bit muddy in the GFX department (On the Ps2 anyway), but still fun.

 
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20th May, 2006 at 18:36:36 -

Math Blaster Episode 1- The Search for Spot. Totally under rated.

 
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21st May, 2006 at 10:17:21 -

i still have red faction, don't play it thou. Its not a 'very good' half-life carbon copy!

 
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22nd May, 2006 at 19:48:13 -

I hated Quake 1. The game was good up until the end...it turned out the main boss was a PLANT. A FUCKING PLANT.

 
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22nd May, 2006 at 19:55:54 -

It's better than having the mental capacity of a plant.

 
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22nd May, 2006 at 19:59:05 -

HEY plants can be really evil, plants make cool monsters *See little shop of horrorz

 
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22nd May, 2006 at 20:35:49 -

Like you?

 
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22nd May, 2006 at 21:31:39 -

Yeah, but this isn't a stage musical. It's a game, and it needs a good boss...

Wait...

Let's make Quake: The musical!!!

 
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23rd May, 2006 at 01:06:02 -

Opening Music:
I don't like you
I will shoot you to poo
When your dead
Your organs will be fed
to a monster with big scary fangs
and in it's hands your head hangs.
I have killed you
I have destroyed you

That's QUAKE!
You SHAKE!
This ain't no Fake
for the darkness you Make
Or your life I will Take.

I run around with a big scary gun
killing things has never been so fun.
I shoot, I score
now I have killed four
My enemies are dead
their blood has been shed.
I have killed them
I have destroyed them.

ect... ect... ect...

I'm looking to become a rock star some day...

 
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23rd May, 2006 at 03:11:13 -

We have track listing!

Act I
01 Overture
02 Yer Dead
03 Run, Ogers!
04 I Gots Me the Biggest Gun
05 Deads, Deads, Deads Everwuh
06 Multiplay Me
07 Collect The Fuckin Runes

Act II
08 From Lava I Cometh
09 The Vor is My Whore
10 Feed Me <---(I didn't steal that from Little Shop of Horrors
11 Bring Him Homes (Didn't steal that from Les Miserables, either)
12 Gethsemane- I Want to Ream His Ass (I DIDN'T Steal that from Jesus Christ Superstar)
13 The Root of All Evuls (Horrorable battle with Giant Weed)
14 Let the Franchise Begin/We're fuckin Rich (Sung by the ID Executives

BUY IT, BITCH!

 
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24th May, 2006 at 00:53:10 -

WHEN CAN I BUY TICKETS?!?!?!?!?

 
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25th May, 2006 at 20:00:08 -

Getting a little off topic eh?

Klik: Lost valley, the game is about as impressive as my beard.

Commercial: Oblivion... all the critics are whining on about how great the graphics are... but they're not that great; HDR maketh not good graphics, nor do noisy textures. Also it runs like a 50 stone woman with two broken ankles, pushing a 7 seater buggy with the handbrake on (unless you have a souped up PC).

 
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25th May, 2006 at 22:15:20 -

not trying to be mean, but thats what a 360 is for. oblivion is way better on it.

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26th May, 2006 at 00:18:33 -

Dunno really, I haven't played it on on 360.

 
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26th May, 2006 at 08:46:09 -

i played Fishhead .. and its freakin overrated , no offense hayo

 
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29th May, 2006 at 10:28:03 -

Half-Life 2. By all means a great game, but besides the Gravity Gun, it doesn't really offer anything new.

 
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29th May, 2006 at 12:05:57 -

Hmmmmm Billy hatcher... It was ok actually but the start up video use to make me really over excited :|

 
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1st June, 2006 at 02:45:59 -

how about Tekken? it's alomst exactly the same from game to game and even though there may be 40+ fighters quite a lot of them share the same moves.

unless i'm missing something here?

 
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1st June, 2006 at 17:38:34 -

Klik: kaiser kitty & Factor X
Commercial: Oblivion

 
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World of Warcraft is the most over-rated PC game ever...

 
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