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Originally Posted by jneumann1

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Well, first of all, I hate doing this, it is always the thing that sets me off of doing games in the first place, and click team seems to be clueless as how to make the editing tools flow well as far as using other utilities. Currently I am using MMF 2 Dev, and spriting in photoshop. Every time I open the file up into MMF and set what color the transparency, there always seems to be a ring of shit that's close to the transparent color, but not enough for it to be considered the transparent color, so I spend a good part of my day erasing each pixel one by one, which is not very fun. I know that when I save the photoshop files to PNG or BMP it for whatever reason automatically distorts the picture a bit, so does anyone know a way around this?

And as far as importing goes, is there an easier way to do it? In various editors such as RPG Maker and Torque, they allow the use of tile maps, so rather than cutting and pasting like a jackass, you can pre select the size of each frame in one picture. I am trying to make a few successful and professional looking projects for my portfolio, but I'd like shave off a few months from just graphical crap, which isn't even my freakin goal in the industry.




Sorry douche bag but saving as PNG(which has transparency) is the only way you will get rid of that ring of "shit" Just use the damn import option, its the little file in the picture editor at the top. Copy and pasting it doesn't do shit, it won't copy and paste the alpha channel jack ass. So there you go. If you have a problem maybe you would like to make your own picture extension?



Alright, dumbfuck, for the last god damn time, who the fuck said I was copying and pasting? Did you fail school or something? I'VE BEEN USING THE IMPORT OPTION. Fuck, even the two damn people above you actually paid attention to what I was saying. I guess we're stupid, huh? We know all about computers so we get a stiff dick about trying to out geek the rest of us without actually saying anything constructive, seeing as how everyone who can fucking comprehend ENGLISH answered the question CORRECTLY. And I'm pretty sure, if you knew jack shit about computers, you would know that MMF's Graphical tools are just about as advanced as MSPAINT.



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26th September, 2008 at 19:18:20 -

Umm, somebody said saving for web png. But that's not important, i use import export all the time, i even use jpegs when i don't need the alpha channel, but photoshop in png saves without any problems.

The problem u are having is that u pick the transparent color. Instead use photoshop empty layer, you can easily import alpha channels, and blank background round the pic. Without doing anything in mmf2, just make it in photoshop.

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26th September, 2008 at 21:57:06 -


Originally Posted by DudeHuge

Originally Posted by jneumann1
Well, first of all, I hate doing this, it is always the thing that sets me off of doing games in the first place, and click team seems to be clueless as how to make the editing tools flow well as far as using other utilities. Currently I am using MMF 2 Dev, and spriting in photoshop. Every time I open the file up into MMF and set what color the transparency, there always seems to be a ring of shit that's close to the transparent color, but not enough for it to be considered the transparent color, so I spend a good part of my day erasing each pixel one by one, which is not very fun. I know that when I save the photoshop files to PNG or BMP it for whatever reason automatically distorts the picture a bit, so does anyone know a way around this?

And as far as importing goes, is there an easier way to do it? In various editors such as RPG Maker and Torque, they allow the use of tile maps, so rather than cutting and pasting like a jackass, you can pre select the size of each frame in one picture. I am trying to make a few successful and professional looking projects for my portfolio, but I'd like shave off a few months from just graphical crap, which isn't even my freakin goal in the industry.




Sorry douche bag but saving as PNG(which has transparency) is the only way you will get rid of that ring of "shit" Just use the damn import option, its the little file in the picture editor at the top. Copy and pasting it doesn't do shit, it won't copy and paste the alpha channel jack ass. So there you go. If you have a problem maybe you would like to make your own picture extension?



Seriously man, get your head out your ass.

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Others have said use PNG, which is true. JPG and BMP don't support transparency, so you'll still get the ring. GIF and PNG-8 do support transparency, but semi-transparency is set against a matte colour, still giving the ring. PNG-24 and TGA support full transparency, and those should work. To save as TGA you'll need to select "Save As" instead of "Save for Web," and I think you have to make a dedicated alpha channel.

You can't import a tile map without having to cut/paste. You could make a Photoshop action that cuts the tiles into easy to use pieces, though.

 

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Originally Posted by Adam Phant
Others have said use PNG, which is true. JPG and BMP don't support transparency, so you'll still get the ring. GIF and PNG-8 do support transparency, but semi-transparency is set against a matte colour, still giving the ring. PNG-24 and TGA support full transparency, and those should work. To save as TGA you'll need to select "Save As" instead of "Save for Web," and I think you have to make a dedicated alpha channel.

You can't import a tile map without having to cut/paste. You could make a Photoshop action that cuts the tiles into easy to use pieces, though.



That's what I meant by cutting and pasting, post import. That's usually what I do, I have yet to try the as animation button, which may actually be easier with the rest of the information given.

 

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Please note that this thread has just became an example of how NOT to act on TDC. Good day.

 
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Whatever, dudes. He acted like a boob and I called him on it. That was far from abuse, and if anyone thinks that was even close to abuse, then whatever, I really don't care. All I asked was a simple damn question, and I'm sure we don't need a bunch of self important assholes acting like it was the dumbest question anyone could possibly ask. I can see if someone was acting like that any where else on any other god damn board, but this is the one place where we really don't need it. My point is, HE DESERVED IT. And if he wants to go cry to mommy or cut his dick off, I really don't give a shit, I do not take that bullshit anywhere, not at work, not in class, on the street, not in my marine corps and certainly not from some little bastard who thinks he knows nothing. It's really stinking simple, but I know most of you are going to dick it up, I can be your best god damn friend, or you can kiss my ass, and I know damn well I wasn't pushing anyone into being a fuckoff, so try not to act like one.

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Cool. You can be my best god damn friend.

 
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Originally Posted by jneumann1
Whatever, dudes. He acted like a boob and I called him on it. That was far from abuse, and if anyone thinks that was even close to abuse, then whatever, I really don't care. All I asked was a simple damn question, and I'm sure we don't need a bunch of self important assholes acting like it was the dumbest question anyone could possibly ask. I can see if someone was acting like that any where else on any other god damn board, but this is the one place where we really don't need it. My point is, HE DESERVED IT. And if he wants to go cry to mommy or cut his dick off, I really don't give a shit, I do not take that bullshit anywhere, not at work, not in class, on the street, not in my marine corps and certainly not from some little bastard who thinks he knows nothing. It's really stinking simple, but I know most of you are going to dick it up, I can be your best god damn friend, or you can kiss my ass, and I know damn well I wasn't pushing anyone into being a fuckoff, so try not to act like one.



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You do realize that you got the warning AFTER you decided to reply in an even worse manner than he did? It's not really an issue if you believe he deserved it or not, since this isn't work, class, the street or even the marine corps ! It's a code forum at a game creation site, and it needs not his acting up nor yours. That's why we have the Admin Alert button, because no one is allowed to act like that here, provoked or unprovoked.

 
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No offense, but it has nothing to do with you or anyone else so butt out. The only mistake I acknowledge making is posting it on the board as opposed to sending him a PM, which will happen if this occurs in the future. It's the same concept when it comes to censorship, if you don't like it, don't read it. And a game creation site should embrace it more than any other kind of site because it is based on creativity. I doubt anyone here is a strict coder, in fact, from how I remember this place before, members were flamed for even suggesting having someone code for them.

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But how are we to know what you have written if we don't read it? It's not that complicated a deal, in these forums, you try and behave, for everyones sake. If you misbehave, someone will point it out to you.

 
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The fact that I'm going to use the PM in the future is the result of the second part of my post. There is obviously no point in speaking my mind if it denies me the use of knowledge most users on TDC offer, although it pains me that anyone who would claim to be a creative soul would have such strong opposition to free speech. I believe that you either have complete freedom or no freedom, but if you choose to cross the line and attack or slander someone who did nothing to you, than that person should be free to return it back on you tenfold. I did nothing to anyone other than the guy I yelled at but for some reason you've been extremely condesending toward me. You can honestly tell me that everyone wants a well behaved forum, or even that I was misbehaving. Sure, I used foul language but so what? They are words. Once again, you can choose to read it, and you can choose to not read it, but you are going to sit here and say that I'm most likely a bad person because of what and how I choose to word something? I'm sure I could have gone around that and typed an essay that said exactly the same thing, only nicer, but that was far from what I was going for. Nothing says I hate you more than "Fuck you" or a punch in the face, and until they invent the printer punch or kickmail, I'll stick with telling him to go fuck himself. I know for a fact, I'm not going to change your mind, and you aren't just going to jump up and say "Oh well golly gee there Johnny, you're quite a guy, I think I'll buy you a beer", so just think about it. I am not going to just go and insult someone out of nowhere, but if someone does it to me I will throw it back at them, whether you like it or not.

 

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Originally Posted by Eternal Man [EE]
But how are we to know what you have written if we don't read it? It's not that complicated a deal, in these forums, you try and behave, for everyones sake. If you misbehave, someone will point it out to you.



The way it usually ends up in these forums is- if someone doesn't like the way you're behaving, they will point it out to you, regardless of if it is misbehaving or not.

 
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