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12th August, 2009 at 18:33:58 -

Hmm, the "demos" on big fish games are easy to crack.
It involves the real exe being hidden, and a fake exe with a timer.
The timer data is stored in the registry.
Delete it and the game continues working.

Sorry to be so off-topic, I think someone was mentioning DRM, and I wanted to see how big fish games did it with mmf games. Pretty sloppily if you ask me.

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12th August, 2009 at 18:43:50 -

I am not having an argument, I am just a grumpy old man who doesn't want to see another idea of his end up here as a piece of ugly shit. It would be the third time.

Some people suggested that clickers who already have commercial games out there could donate a part of their profit to pay for TDC hosting, which makes me (and some of my friends) pretty mad.

No sarcasm, no wth, if you want to sell games, you have to guarantee quality. Otherwise people who buy them get pissed off and will not return to the site, or even ask their money back. I also never called anyone an idiot and never said nobody gets the idea.

But this seems useless. If the admins don't believe in this idea why are we discussing it? Just recode the whole thing to PHP, switch to a linux server and force people to click ads.

 
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12th August, 2009 at 18:54:24 -

I hate to go all quotey on you, but

Originally Posted by Hayo
I concluded the average of this community is too young to get the idea, crying shame.



I must have misread some member names, because I thought you were the one that suggested optional donation to TDC if the developer wanted to. I apologize. I don't understand why that would make you mad though.

I said sarcasm and what the heck because I was confused. In one post you said you hated the idea of stealing money from developers, and then in another you said you wanted a section where professional games could be sold? I don't get that. You said, "People who want to have a try selling their quality games get help from the coverage TDC gives them, they help TDC with a part of the profit." That's why I asked if there was sarcasm. It seems contradictory.

And you never outright called anyone idiots, but by saying "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU" you kind of implied that you thought people were being silly.

You told me I was explaining part of your idea to you, the optional part. In your post where you said "If I had to donate a part of the profit of a game I sell, I would not put it on TDC, out of principle." it appeared to be a response to me, as though I were saying it was required that you had to give TDC a portion. That didn't make sense to me since I included "optional" in it.

I don't want to be a pain, I'm just severely confused and wanting to understand what exactly it is that you do and don't want, and why what I said was wrong, even though you... said it?



 

  		
  		

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12th August, 2009 at 18:57:49 -

"I am not having an argument, I am just a grumpy old man who doesn't want to see another idea of his end up here as a piece of ugly shit. It would be the third time."

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12th August, 2009 at 19:01:47 -

Anyone care to comment on my KlikCast disc idea?

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:03:37 -

I certainly wouldn't buy it.

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:05:39 -

I think it depends on the perspective you take. If you thought of it as buying a $10 disc with some podcasts on it... I probably wouldn't even buy it. But if you say, "Donate at least $10 to help support TDC and get this free Klikcast DVD!" I think that would be more successful.

 

  		
  		

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12th August, 2009 at 19:09:45 -

I'd consider paying $4-$5 max, if it was completely new (and higher quality) material.

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:15:49 -

Fair enough, lower the price. Maybe include exclusive demos too, that'd be worth it

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:17:02 -

"I said sarcasm and what the heck because I was confused. In one post you said you hated the idea of stealing money from developers, and then in another you said you wanted a section where professional games could be sold? I don't get that. You said, "People who want to have a try selling their quality games get help from the coverage TDC gives them, they help TDC with a part of the profit." That's why I asked if there was sarcasm. It seems contradictory."

Right, first of all, the thing we are discussing here was my idea, an idea I had for a few months now. I suggested it in the news post, Rikus made a discussion thread about it saying "the idea that has been floating around". I don't want to take credit for this idea or anything, but I'd hate so see it go wrong.

In the first few pages I repeat the essence of my idea, people having the opportunity to sell their games tru TDC, giving them the needed coverage and platform, giving TDC some money to pay for hosting. Then some people suggest that klikkers who already have commercial games out there could just donate to TDC. That is what I was "mad" about. So the next few pages I try to explain how hard it is to sell a game by yourself, without a platform. Only to see some people making the same suggestion again. Which makes me a grumpy old man on the last few pages of this discussion.

Looking at the posts in this discussion, about 50% does not get the idea, do not realise you need a base to publish your games. Even after I explained it 5 times. I suggested this because I want to help this community, not because I want to sell my games.


 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:22:51 -

I thought perhaps that was it, but I was going in logic circles so I wasn't sure. I think I read the parts about developers who already had games giving portions of the profit to TDC as meaning the developers who already have games could put those games into the new system, giving a portion of the sales AFTER that to TDC. If they wanted. I realize that that still isn't what you had in mind, but it's where I was confused.

I think that clears it up. I apologize if I irritated you.

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12th August, 2009 at 19:34:01 -

And I apologise for being a grumpy old man

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:50:55 -


Originally Posted by Hayo
And I apologise for being a grumpy old man



Don't. You're perfectly innocent in all of this.

 
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12th August, 2009 at 19:53:50 -

He's right. I was the one who misunderstood.

 

  		
  		

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12th August, 2009 at 19:58:41 -

Of course I'm right, there's no need to confirm it.

 
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