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Disthron
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08/02/2005
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1101
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10th August, 2009 at 12:11:16 -
This is an interesting development for me, as I am in the proses of creating a game that I'm planning on selling. Also one of my friends who is a fellow Clicker has made some games that I feel he could make a little money from.
There are some things I think you'd have to take into consideration though. Some have already been mentioned above. Firstly quality control, there should be a few people judging games that are submitted. People who come to buy wont to know there getting a decent product. Then there is the issue of copyright infringement. A game that is to be sold shouldn't have any content ripped from other games.
You might wont to think about allowing the creator to set the price within a range. Like say, this is just an idea, between $2 and $20. With a listing of how much the Daily Click will take. Maybe the judges could lower the price if they think the game is still worth selling but they feel the creator is asking too much. But they should probably notify the content creator beforehand.
I think the games that are submitted should have at least 4-5 screen shots and if there is no demo to try then there should at least be a video of game play. Maybe linked on youtube or something.
The last thing I can think of is that not all download submissions should be considered for this. Only work specifically submitted for sale should be considered. Otherwise any judges would have just too much work to do with all the downloads.
Anyway, that's my take on it. I have to agree with Hayo on a lot of what he has said. Putting up more adds couldn't hurt ether. Maybe even some adds for the games that are being sold on the daily click?
"Oh, my god! A lightning monster just ripped out this poor woman's eyes, and your mocking her shrubbery!" - The Spoony One
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The Chris Street
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Unspeakably Lazy Admin
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10th August, 2009 at 12:53:08 -
Something else that you could try is forcing people to log in each day, but each time they do so they HAVE to click on a banner to generate some form of cash if they actually want to get into the site.
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Johnny Look
One Happy Dude
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10th August, 2009 at 16:59:14 -
I don't know if this idea is gonna fly or not, but I'm working on a new game with TDC's distress call in mind which I might sell if I feel it's good enough.
In that case, I would sell the game exclusively here, and I wouldn't mind giving TDC 75% of the sales, since the game is being made mostly to help the site. Of course, it would be priced according to the quality of the final product, and if the admins think it's appropriate.
Also it would be nice if more people did the same thing, I think it would the help the site quite a lot and it could make much more money that simple donations.
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OMC
What a goofball
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10th August, 2009 at 17:04:52 -
There's no shortage of helpful members, for sure! 
One idea, if we didn't want to mess with having to file some business paperwork, is to only keep a portion of any profits made up to the limit, before we'd need to do official stuff. Then 100% of the profits would go to the author!
That may have already been said, but there's too much I haven't read to read! 
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maVado
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10th August, 2009 at 17:37:38 -
You should look at outsourcing images, that should decrease the bandwith a lot, also the board style could use some fixing. For example when I type this text the whole thread is loaded into a frame, why not the last post only? Also looking at threads always shows the full thread, you should remove all and only allow page views. This should also decrease the bandwith a lot.
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Cecilectomy
noPE
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10th August, 2009 at 17:43:58 -
yes as mavado said there is a lot of places on the site that eat bandwidth that are just plain unneccessary.
if you are on an asp host im sure it would also support php as well? if not you should be able to install it yourself. unless your host is stupid. and you could just slowly convert pages over to php. it doesnt have to be done all at once.
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Jon Lambert
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Vaporware Master
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10th August, 2009 at 18:06:41 -
Yes, let's do that. My first input here: we can have games that are commercial on other sites sold here as well with some sort of special content and with a good portion of profit going as a donation to the site (as suggested by someone else already). We could add the Submit to Klikdisc checkbox on the submission page so that things are simultaneously submitted to Klikdisc. Then we sell the disc here and/or make a profit based on how much of the content came from TDC. We set up a more efficient frame for the site as opposed to everything being loaded on every page, so that things like the Header, background image, Link Bar, Search, Admin Alert, Worth a Click, General Poll, and GOTM Poll are loaded only once. Remove the All option from forum viewing and the review should only include the last 10 posts. Host more images on other servers so as not to burden this one. I can't think of anything else. Most ideas would have been suggested already but I'm just supporting some.
On the matter of selling games: possibly a "Premium" system, where games can be submitted and tagged as including premium (commercial) content, where they offer a full game with content that can be bought using DC points or real money. Actually that's a bad idea, never mind. 
EDIT: Oh yeah, let's all go bandwidth hunting, finding things that use up too much. And when you view your post, it should give you just the page it's on, not all the pages.
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Johnny Look
One Happy Dude
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10th August, 2009 at 19:41:25 -
My suggestion would be to have a section called Premium Games or something like that where the paid games would be located, and every time a new game is accepted, it will appear in the place where it is now the Daily Spotlight, which imo is useless because that's what news posts are for.
Every paid game would have it's own download page much like the regular downloads, but with a Buy Now button, the Download button would have "Download Demo" instead, and the price would be listed somewhere separatly.
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@omc: I disagree, that way TDC would receive very little profit, and I don't think taxes are applicable here since it's a community site and it's not owned by a company.
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aphant
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10th August, 2009 at 20:00:49 -
If you're looking to save bandwidth, it might be time to overhaul the site entirely. Not just changing the coding from ASP to PHP, but changing the layout and site features, too.
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Ricky
loves Left For Dead 2
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10th August, 2009 at 20:18:59 -
Originally Posted by Chris Street
Something else that you could try is forcing people to log in each day, but each time they do so they HAVE to click on a banner to generate some form of cash if they actually want to get into the site.
If you are using google, that's in violation of their rules. You aren't allowed to ask, force or in anyway encourage people to click on the ads. People are only supposed to click out of genuine interest.
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DeadmanDines
Best Article Writer
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27/04/2006
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10th August, 2009 at 21:07:12 -
I remain convinced that the DC community has enough talent in it to make a very successful sellable title. The community should really pull together on this, even if we only do it once!
How about it? We make one project as a test case and see if as a collaborative work we can sell it out to the non-click community. Because in a community with the amount of talent that this one has, there is no reason at all why it should not be able to operate in some way to fund itself.
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Cecilectomy
noPE
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10th August, 2009 at 21:17:15 -
the community has before, and failed. remember the tdc online rpg game?(im not talking about the recent tdc world) never happened. it may have just been that the focus of the game was ABOUT tdc but it still failed.
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Jon Lambert
Administrator
Vaporware Master
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10th August, 2009 at 21:37:50 -
Originally Posted by DeadmanDines
I remain convinced that the DC community has enough talent in it to make a very successful sellable title. The community should really pull together on this, even if we only do it once!
How about it? We make one project as a test case and see if as a collaborative work we can sell it out to the non-click community. Because in a community with the amount of talent that this one has, there is no reason at all why it should not be able to operate in some way to fund itself.
If you agree with the above, join the TDC Community Project!  http://www.create-games.com/project.asp?id=1458
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OMC
What a goofball
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10th August, 2009 at 21:43:34 -
Regardless of financial status, I would love to see TDC put out a good game as a community. But that would mean all the top coders and artists and idea men in one group doing one thing, with ONE project director, and I don't think they'd have time to do that or would necessarily want to do that. 
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DeadmanDines
Best Article Writer
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10th August, 2009 at 21:49:45 -
I still like the idea of:
Guy A has an idea
Guy A tries to make the idea
Guy A asks guy B to help with graphics
Guy A asks guy C to help with audio and music
Guy A asks guy D to help with some coding issues
Guy A sells game using platform as the provider (so all leads go to that one platform)
So very much Guy A in control, with a vision, and asking others to help him realise that vision in return for a cut of the profits.
191 / 9999 * 7 + 191 * 7
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