Hey muz, man I tried really hard to find some suicide rate numbers, but none that I found pertain to religion. Sure suicide bombers only account for a few, but I still don't believe there is a correlation. I do agree that many good things come out of church, I personally attend church regularly.
I don't think atheists complain about religion, except when it is forced on them, such as the extreme recruiting practices of Opus Dei, bible pushers at the airport, or those pesky door to door Mormons.
My problem with religion is that sometimes it hinders progress, like when religious nuts bomb abortion clinics, or refuse to accept new scientific developments.
Religious wars still go on today, and not just in the mid-east. Places like Ireland for example (Protestants and Catholics). War to me just isn’t efficient, and needs to be eliminated. If a clash of strong beliefs is to blame, why not mandate that people express their religion in the confines of private property?
As for Muslim women forced to take of their hijab is not right, and I have never heard of a case in the US where that has happened.
Although I can see where the head-to-toe chadri could pose a security risk at airports or secure locations.
Once again I haven't heard of The Passion of the Christ being banned, where do you live? It sounds oppressed.
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Yah, but what then, I mean. When yah got a fat, ugly chick pregnant by accident after meeting, her/it because of having a few too many draft's. Whatcya gonna do then huh? Be with a bitchy, putrid most likely smelly half-excuse for a women? I do not think soooo.
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Yes, religious people do tend to be happier and commit suicide far less. No, I am not going to go find the studies that I read that say this, go look them up for yourself. What your saying could be true but so could the bible. It's hard to verify what happened long ago, because the documents get distorted by people over time.
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Actually, MR.Coffee is part right, though the reason is reversed.
People that are unhappy/depressed tend not to care about religion. Because of that tendency to stop caring when depressed, obviously the non-religious pool of people committing suicide would be higher.
Ofcourse you have to exclude ritual suicide, etc. Some religions still have those.
I heard a Christian riot broke out somewhere in Pennsylvania where they flogged a guy dressed like the Easter Bunny and threw dyed eggs at him in front of little crying children. Easter SHOULD be the celebration of the resurrection of Christ, just like Christmas should celebrate the birth of Jesus instead of Presents. We'd rather get presents and worship evil and wicked idols like chocolate bunnies and christmas trees and eggs rather than enjoy a worthless Holiday like President's day or whatever. Though school is out then, but still!
Really, i know why we have chocolate and presents for easter. Why you ask? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE CHOCOLATE AND PRESENTS! It's not some ancient tradition of religiousness like it's supposed to be. "The chocolate represents the flesh of Jesus, and the inner fudge represents his blood" No, really, that's all there is to it. PEOPLE LIKE FREAKING CANDY AND GIFTS! I mean, why don't we accept the truth and STILL hand out presents and candy and honor the ressurection of Jesus? They should stop covering it up. I know foos that don't know Easter has ANYTHING to do with Jesus. PEOPLE ARE GREEDY, STUPID, MORONS THAT THINK BELIEVING MAKES SOMETHING TRUE, when it doesn't. They never experience something they believe in, so they assume it's wrong. If they believe in something like nature, they can see it without trying. People don't want to use effort, they want God to do EVERYTHING for them. And of course, God will do something UNSINFUL if you ask. People don't ask or think he'll do it if they DO ask, so he doesn't. That's why children are starving in them countries out there.
A Barber discusses religion with his patient. The Barber:"If God exists, then why do children starve in the middle east? Why are there global problems?" A shaggy patient waiting says "I never get my hair cut, but that doesnt mean barbers don't exist".
Thereby, they unconciously mix what they WANT with what they should ACCEPT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS!!!
WHEW! That was long and partly off subject.
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Please tell me there are more christians here... i feel all sad and lonely now...
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Oh, I forgot to mention the following: There's a sign on the road. You look at it, and it says "< Construction" and "Free Meal Day at Outback >". So, what do you do? The athiest goes torwards construction, finds "Rock Solid Proof" but is trapped in cement. The Christian takes the freaking steak and enjoys its wonderful bliss. But, then again, maybe someone swapped the sign around? What do you do? Easy. LOOK AHEAD, IT'S 10 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU DUPHUS. Did you know that? No. You weren't looking at everything, so you missed it. INSTEAD of looking for proof, INSTEAD of looking for proof against it, look for GOD!!! Jesus yelled at the pharisees because they knew the bible "like the back of thier hand", but never did anything. More importantly, THEY MISSED GOD! The bible wasn't written by god. It is not part of christianity. Simply put, it was a book made for easy refernence (of course, not originally). If you prayed to god, talked with him about everything wrong in your life, and believed in Jesus, you'd know what's right and wrong, you'd know the truth, and you won't have to worry about screwing up. It's not where if you don't do everything right, you go to hell. It's not where doing EVERYTHING wrong, even though you try so hard. It's simply if you believe in Jesus, and REALLY mean it (Unlike the average christian) you will be forgiven of IT ALL. You will go to heaven.
But really (I say "but really" a lot), I think what's really amusing is that people arguing against christianity actually disprove common misconceptions of it. I think of ya'll guys as tools Honestly, christianity isn't about loving everybody. It's not about peace. It's not about worship, communion, sin, JESUS, or anything else! ITS ABOUT KNOWING AND LOVING GOD. Heck, violence isn't even wrong. Stupid christian people misintrepret John (or maybe Paul, i forget(If there is a Paul)) Pacifism is an option, not the ONLY path. Think of Samson, Jesus forcing the people from the temple with a whip of chords, the Archangel constantly fighting against the demons of hell! Really. God awards the pacifist, but it's not the only right way. What is wrong is the INTENTIONS of a lot of violence and the COMPETELY unnecessary use. Beating up that freaking guy who stalks you is OK! Killing animals for food is ok! Didn't Moses say "Arise, kill, and eat"?
Another WHEW! That was all over the place. < Anothother smiley
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I ain't catholic, I'm just protestant. But hey, that's ok for now. Heck I'm not even in a dominance. I'm plain non-dominant.
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All I can say is: Philippe, I’d look ahead, then go get my steak, I don’t know where you got your crappy metaphor, but if I were you, I’d reread my posts before submitting them.
Where are you getting your information about the Bible and God? It sounds completely ass backwards to me, but hey, whatever floats your boat. The thing is, you can’t force us in to your beliefs by posting a bunch of misspelled garbage that you probably plagiarized. You call us tools, when you are a tool of organized religion. Who are we tools of? Ourselves?
Let me quote dogma here:
“Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions, out of - out of fear of some, intangible parent figure, who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago, and says:
‘Do it, and I'll fucking spank you!’ “
Now, please, Philippe, don’t listen to anything I have said that offends you. Exercise your beliefs in full force, I support you in that. And I hope we are still friends in the klik community.
Now, I want a rebuttal from you, disproving my main points, and clarifying your statements about how arguments against Christianity actually prove it.
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What your saying could be true but so could the bible. It's hard to verify what happened long ago, because the documents get distorted by people over time.
