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25th April, 2004 at 03:45:51 -

Britain probably will pull out of the war especially if we join the EU, which will be likely considering the way the referendum will no doubt go...

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25th April, 2004 at 05:45:37 -

i'd have hoped we'd have pulled out anyway by the time of signing the EU constituion (if the referendum passes, that is, i'd definetly be voting against it if i was 1.

 
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25th April, 2004 at 08:59:30 -

I just CAN'T figure it out WHY????
There's no f**king reason to send troops to a country; even IRAQ!!!
In my opinion -and the 99% of GReek people- is that USA=NAZIs!!!
The US goverment is a MENACE for mankind. THEY decide WHERE to strike
and WHEN without asking anyone. United Nations are nothing more than PUPPETS.
Sadam WAS a dictator BUT only the Iraqi people had the right to hunt him down.
If the USA wanted to "help" these "poor misguided fools" (=Starsailor )
could very easily "attack Sadam's army", hunt him down, catch him and return home leaving there a new and free DEMOCRACY... In that case I would support'em.
THEY DIDN'T AND THEY WANT DO THAT!
They want a pupper regime there to control the rest of the middle east with
their little stupid allies the EGLAND and ISRAEL.
They're imperialists; which i hate!
This "NEW ROME" is about to fall and tries to hang on!
11/9 was the first strike in your tiny-weeny-lill-world
and YOU have freaked out!!!
I'm not supporting terrorists and I believe that kind of attacks
are not "an action of braveness"; you cannot kill innocent people, women and children
just in order to VENGEANCE your people's elimination...
The Palestinians (as someone referred) are fighting for their HOMELAND in case you didn't notice!
Anyway, the US people are fooling themselves if they believe that they can DECIDE FOR ALL HUMANITY! The Spanish goverment got their lesson -many innocents died/many troops also- and after the Spanish PEOPLE's decision they're pulling their troops out of there.

A last question: does any of you (mostlly the US and EN guys) know that a huge outbreak/revolution against USA and their so called "alliance" has started from the day that US ARMY won the "war"??? I guess not, the CNN/BBC PROPAGANDA does not tell you such "stories"...

"The fate of the empire is to crash in to the ground!" a Greek historian (i don't remember its name -sorry)

So give peace a chance.

 
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25th April, 2004 at 13:26:33 -

have you finished that olympic stadium yet?

 
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25th April, 2004 at 13:29:04 -

Pete, Im sure there letting 17 year olds vote on this referendum too.

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25th April, 2004 at 13:38:27 -

nah you gotta be 18 to vote in a referedum, just like a general election.

 
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25th April, 2004 at 13:59:28 -

YESSS!! i can vote ill probably be voting in this referendum before the local elections take place. Tony blair makes me laugh but as a PM he's not bad. but labour is crap vote conservative

 
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27th April, 2004 at 20:50:00 -

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned this at all if I knew it was going to cause tension. True: It does sound like spain is bending to the terrorists demands but the only reason they are pulling out is because the president who dupported Bush did not get reelected. While it may have been smarter to go after Osoma first let me ask you this: Do you know where he is? And we tried going to the UN but no one would support us. Bush has done his homework. Would you rather have a bunch of clerics toting around religious dogmas supporting terrorism in charge? And those positions are only temporary. First, americans aren't on a 'saddist campaing of terror'. Secondly, we're just trying to clean up the mess we should have finished decades ago and taken care of suddahm then. To Black Wizards-Greek Clickers: The palestinians are not fighting for their homeland: God gave that to isreal and they drove them out. second: we are not nazis or some bloody new rome. If americans are bloody Nazis then why did we destroy hitler(oh wait, was he your hero) and if suddam didn't obey the un inspectors we wouldn't be there. Its their own stupid fault for bringing us down on them.

 
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27th April, 2004 at 21:17:06 -

Tension? TENSHUN!!!1, if that is like, non-nerdy for flaming, THATS WHY WE HAD A FORUM! I personally support spains decision, it's their troops, and they already have enough mindless dumbasses blowing eachother up for the remaining WOMD's, note: they're not under the chair, Georgy.

And now for something totally unrelated: Eat pete's ranking.

 
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27th April, 2004 at 22:46:12 -

" You realize that if Kerry wins the presidential election he's also going to pull the troops out of iraq.

this is going to sound bad but...Vote Bush! "

---This is bullshit. Kerry has no intention of pulling out troops. Kerry is going to hand power over to the U.N., and if anything send more troops. He will futher more build a larger coalition and hopefully apologize to the world for our previous...shitty leader.

 
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27th April, 2004 at 23:56:30 -

Due to US military intelligence, and classified data, I believe that the people running our country are running it in the best possible way.
I don't particularly like Bush, but he has advisors, he has agencies, there are checks and balances. Anyone in his position would be making the same decisions. The reason it may not seem good to us is because we don't get all the information that they get.

I don't care what a 16-year old has to say about politics or world view. He doesn’t have the CIA, NSA, and countless other agencies feeding him information.

The strongest country in the world didn't get it’s power from the whims of stupid leaders. Bush is not running the country, there are many people that run the country, including it‘s citizens.


To the Black Wizard

There are many reasons you can't kill a country's leader and then leave, it would be chaos over there. We don't want to spend our fucking lives and money babysitting Iraq, but they obviously can't control themselves. Did you see the looting on TV? After they looted their government offices, they got angry at the US for not stopping them.

Comparing the US to Nazis? How stupid can you be. Wake up, and quit making puerile comparisons.

Of course we know about the "outbreak/revolution" we live in a free world, and have access to the net. CNN and BBC don't hold anything back, I doubt you have seen CNN or BBC, so keep your mouth shut.

Up until WWII, the USA had taken a separatist stance on the world's problems, we simply didn't want to get involved in your shit. Then the Japanese attacked us.

After we kicked their asses, we had to go help the French, and so on. Now we have to have a big military to keep the peace from countries that don't like us, and countries don't like us because we have a big military.

Ok, now let's say you got your way, and we got rid of all our nukes, and all our troops and ships and planes, threw away all of our military. What would happen?

North Korea would use their nukes, the Mid-East would erupt in warfare, and probably attack the US because we don't have a military, and some other country would take the US's place as the military power.

So quit your bitching and accept it, the USA's military force is necessary until the other countries quit acting like kids. We keep you safe, and until the world is perfect, we need force.


 
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28th April, 2004 at 17:30:31 -

Yuh, agreed JP, bush is basically a spokes-person for US with another person writing the speech's.

 
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28th April, 2004 at 20:44:08 -

Bush is not a puppet himself. Thats not true. He chose his cabinet, he makes decisions too...Very poor decisions.


 
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28th April, 2004 at 21:15:21 -

"I don't care what a 16-year old has to say about politics or world view. He doesn’t have the CIA, NSA, and countless other agencies feeding him information. "

Yeah well you damn well better care cause the 9/11 commission is saying that our security agencies need reform...Obviously if we thought WMD's existed, yet they did not; then theres a problem.

i might not have the CIA, NSA, ect. I have to trust the president. You know what, i as a citizen, am the presidents boss; and if he fucks up I have something to say about it.

I didn't hire him to lie.


And another thing: What if Iraq's gov't collapses. What then. Hmm, ever consider the possibility of more terrorism? I think so. We need international support, but if people are pissed off and don't want to help us then we can't say Fuckoff and call them enemies. Thats there democratic choice.


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28th April, 2004 at 21:57:50 -

can't ...take...liberal-...ness.

 
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